RaterFest! is an annual two and a half day training conference for home energy professionals.   Registration includes all sessions, housing, meals, activities, Colorado craft brews, and optional participation in the RaterOlympics.

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Steve Armstrong, Scott Doyle, Michelle Foster, Bruce Manclark, Shaunna Mozingo, Bill Rectanus, Brad Smith, Bill Spohn, Tyler Stein, & Dan Wildenhaus

Conference | September 15-17, 2017 | Covenant Heights, Estes Park, CO


Program Overview


Our field is exciting… we think the training should be too. Unbeatable training for energy professionals is our standard.


Whether during a session or around the bonfire, brilliant ideas always surface… inevitable with so many great minds together.


RaterFest! celebrates the ways that energy professionals are saving the world… one efficient home at a time.  From the RaterOlympics to music jams and Colorado craft brews in the evening, RaterFest! is the perfect balance of education and fun.

Credits & Attendance

Each year RaterFest! is accredited for RESNET® and BPI CEUs.

RaterFest! is a RESNET regional conference.


2017 Speakers:

Steve Armstrong, Senior Building Analyst of Environmental Solutions Group

Scott Doyle, Quality Assurance Manager for RESNET

Michelle Foster, Vice President of Innovation Services at Home Innovation Research Labs

Bruce Manclark, Director of CLEAResult

Shaunna Mozingo, Building Plans Analysis, Inspector and Code Educator/Consustlant for Colorado Code Consulting LLC (CCC)

Bill Rectanus, Vice President of Homebuilding Operations at Thrive Home Builders

Brad Smith, Energy Code Compliance Specialist at City of Fort Collins

Bill Spohn, President & CEO of TruTech Tools, LTD

Tyler Stein, Construction Manager for CalAtlantic Group, Inc.

Dan Wildenhaus, Building Science Manager at CLEAResult


More About our Presenters from 2017:

Michelle Foster, Vice President of Innovation Services at Home Innovation Research Labs

Michelle Foster works with builders, architects, remodelers, and other professionals to remove barriers to high-performance, sustainable housing. Michelle oversees NGBS Green, the certification program based on the National Green Building Standard ICC/ASHRAE – 700. The program certifies new and remodeled residential buildings and communities of all sizes and has transformed the market for green homes.

Michelle’s career has focused on market solutions to solve environmental issues without compromising housing affordability. Michelle developed Fannie Mae’s Smart Commute Mortgage, revamped the Energy Efficient Mortgage, and developed a methodology to calculate the carbon reduction from efficient homes so that they could be sold on the emerging greenhouse gas market.

Michelle has a Masters in Urban Planning and Environmental Studies from the University of Virginia and a BS in Environmental Studies from SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry.

Bruce Manclark, Director of CLEAResult

Bruce is a nationally recognized leader in residential consulting on energy efficiency, energy efficiency technical training, implementation of conservation programs, and quality control testing. Bruce has helped clients such as the Northwest Energy Efficiency Alliance, Bonneville Power Administration, Energy Trust of Oregon and others develop program strategies for HVAC, new homes and existing homes programs. Bruce previously owned an energy services company, Delta T, specializing in the implementation of residential energy conservation programs and services. In April 2016, he was inducted in the Building Performance Industry Hall of Fame recognized for his significant and lasting contributions to the building performance industry over the course of his career. Bruce is currently on the Board of Directors for Efficiency First.

Shaunna Mozingo, Building Plans Analysis, Inspector and Code Educator/Consustlant for Colorado Code Consulting LLC (CCC)

Shaunna manages the energy code contracts for CCC, conducting research and providing training to code officials, builders, Energy Raters and designers both locally and around the U.S. Shaunna also serves as a building inspector for the U.S. Department of Energy’s Solar Decathlon Competitions and served as the inspector for the China Solar Decathlon Competition. She has been awarded IMT and ICC’s Standard Bearer’s Award for her efforts in compliance with energy codes as well as the South West Energy Efficiency Project’s Award for Leadership in Energy Codes. Shaunna is a past president of the Colorado Chapter of ICC and serves on the Chapter’s Education, Legislative, Code Development and Membership committees. She was appointed to the International Code Council’s Commercial Energy Code Development Committee and Code Correlation Committee for the 2018 code cycle.

Bill Rectanus, Vice President of Homebuilding Operations at Thrive Home Builders

Bill Rectanus is the Vice President of Homebuilding Operations for Thrive Home Builders in Denver, Colorado. His responsibilities include the management and oversight of the construction, purchasing, and customer service departments. In addition to his daily responsibilities, Bill is responsible for the implementation and advancement of Thrive Home Builders’ “High-Performance Building Initiative”. Bill has broad industry experience that includes solar photovoltaic systems previously working for SunPower Corporation, and in energy efficiency through his work with Ecova managing utility energy efficiency programs.

Bill and the Thrive team construct every home to align with the rigorous specifications of the Department of Energy’s Zero Energy Ready Home Program which includes the EPA’s Indoor Air Plus and EnergyStar programs. Thrive has been Denver’s “Solar Standard Builder” since 2009 and has four series of homes they deliver as zero energy. These homes come with a guaranteed HERS score of 10 or less. This attention to building industry-leading homes has helped Thrive win DOE’s Grand Award for Housing Innovation four years in a row.

Bill is very active in the Denver homebuilding industry serving on the Board of Directors for the Home Builders Association of Metro Denver and formerly as Chairman of the Flatirons Building Council. In addition, Bill has been a session speaker at many industry and energy efficiency conferences like IBS, PCBC, EEBA and Solar Power International.

Brad Smith, Energy Code Compliance Specialist at City of Fort Collins

Brad Smith is the Energy Code Compliance Specialist with The City of Fort Collins Utilities and the Fort Collins Building Department. He works closely between departments to review, advance, administer, assist and train in energy code compliance for both residential and commercial building.
Brad has many years of experience in the energy services sector as a residential HERS Rater for new construction and home efficiency audits on existing homes. Along with his RESNET HERS Rater certification he holds certifications as ICC Residential Energy Inspector & Plans Examiner, Energy Star certified Rater, and has extensive training and experience as a BPI Building Analyst, TYVEK Certified WRB Installer/Warranty Certification and City of Fort Collins HVAC System Performance testing.


Bill Spohn, President & CEO, TruTech Tools, LTD

BS & MS in Mechanical Engineering, University Of Rochester
Registered Professional Engineer (PE) in Pennsylvania

Bill has designed, marketed and sold a wide array of test and measurement products in the last twenty-five years. Bill was design-engineering manager at Bacharach, Inc. for 10 years and HVAC Product Marketing Manager at Testo, Inc. for 10 years. Since 2009, he has managed and is now President, CEO and majority owner of TruTech Tools, LTD. He and his team have built an Inc. 5000 award winning test instrument web store (#3962 in 2016). TruTech’s philosophy is to start from the “why” of the customer’s tasks and provide learning materials to help them perform with best practices.

He regularly teaches and writes on technically complex topics to a wide range of audiences on the applications of testing and measurement instrumentation in building science, healthy homes, Indoor Air Quality, weatherization, and HVACR.

Bill was awarded a 10,000 Small Business Scholarship in 2016 to boost his entrepreneurial skills. He has worked on BPI, RESNET, GAMA, AHRI, OMA, RSES, NATE, and ACCA Technical Committees, and holds three US patents in instrumentation design. He also consults in instrumentation design, development and application along with expert witness work on HVAC equipment, heat exchanger, carbon monoxide and related issues as well as technical education.


Tyler Stein, Construction and Building Science Professional for CalAtlantic Homes

Tyler Stein is a residential homes construction and building science professional with over 25 yrs. in the industry. Currently he is employed with CalAtlantic Homes as a Construction Manager. His responsibilities include full site management, communications, and relations with the sales staff, all trade partners, purchasing department, structural engineer, and architecture department.
Over the course of his building career, he has owned and operated his own General Contracting Company, Energy Rating / building science consultation company. Prior to his current position, he worked for EnergyLogic as a field rater, and assisted with the launch of their HVAC design services.
Most describe Tyler as never settling for “acceptable”, he has always had the personality and passion to drive the industry forward to improve and focus on best practice construction processes, building science, HVAC design, / installation, and through education and training.


Over the course of his career, Tyler has gathered numerous certifications to include:

  • Residential General Contractor License
  • ICC – Plans examiner and energy efficiency inspector
  • LEED – Green Rater
  • RESNET – HERS Energy Rater
  • ACCA – HVAC Designer
  • City of Fort Collins – HVAC testing & commissioning certified
  • BPI – Building Analyst Professional
  • TYVEK Certified WRB Installer & Warranty Certification


Dan Wildenhaus, Building Science Manager of CLEAResult

As the Building Science Manager for CLEAResult, Dan provides extensive technical and training experience in Building Science, construction, remodeling and retrofitting of buildings to achieve significant energy savings in both existing and new structures. Dan has more than 20 years of industry experience that includes performing energy audits and ratings, weatherization repairs, and consulting and analysis for clients. Dan currently provides consultation, technical management, training and presentation services for a variety of energy efficiency and demand response programs and pilots across the country. Dan currently is a member of the RESNET Standards and Development Committee, chairing the Envelope sub-committee, as well as serving on multiple task groups.

Scott Doyle, Quality Assurance Manager at RESNET®

Scott Doyle is the RESNET Quality Assurance Manager and former Director of Field Services for EnergyLogic. Since earning Rater Certification in 2003, Scott has performed inspections on thousands of homes across a variety of construction types and climate zones. In 2007 he became a RESNET certified Quality Assurance Designee. As Primary QAD for multiple HERS Providers, he oversaw and mentored a large team of Quality Assurance Designees and Delegates. Scott served as Primary Trainer for EnergyLogic Academy from 2008-2014; training hundreds of Energy Professionals across the U.S. using a variety of formats including field, classroom, and e-learning. He recently served as Chair of SDC-200, Chair of the RESNET Exam Working Group, and is a member of the Quality Agent Training Working Group.

Steve Armstrong, Director of Multifamily & Commercial Services for Perfromance Point

Steve is a senior energy analyst, HERS Rater, RESNET Quality Assurance Designee, Home Innovation Research Labs Green Building Master Verifier, and BPI Envelope professional. Steve has over 30 years of professional experience in the fields of energy analysis and environmental science. He holds undergraduate and graduate degrees in hydrogeology, geology and geochemistry, and has worked for the Department of Energy in addition to a myriad of state, local, federal, tribal governments and universities. Steve also has a very strong background in both the residential and commercial construction industry. This knowledge base provides Performance Point with a more thorough understanding of construction methods and issues facing contractors as they transition to developing and building sustainable structures.


On the Agenda for 2017

Opening the Window to the Builder’s Back Office
Bill Rectanus

This presentation will try to give you some insight into the builder’s world. Learn how builders make decisions and choose to move towards or away from building science and energy efficiency. Get an understanding of the different types of builders and how their structures push them towards the decisions they make? Get a sneak peek into home builders financials; how they price their homes, the types of margins that run their businesses and the risks they face in this very competitive business.

This interactive session should help you better understand your builder client, how they make decisions and who or what is the driving force behind making them. Learn how you can use this information to bring value to their design, their cost control and in the end drive them towards building better more efficient and healthy homes.

Learning objectives:

  1. Better understand the different builder types and building company structures.
  2. Learn how the different builder types make decisions and who is behind making them.
  3. Understand the builder’s financial structure and review the strains and limits it poses to a builders business.
  4. Review and learn how builders price their homes and how that exercise affects their decision-making process.
  5. Learn how building science and energy efficiency fit into these different building company models.
  6. Gain an understating of how you can help builders limit risk and control cost while moving towards a more energy efficient, healthy and durable product.

Build Your Business and Bring Builders More Value Using the HERS Index Path to Green Certification
Steve Armstrong & Michelle Foster

The National Green Building Standard ICC/ASHRAE 700-2015 now includes a streamlined HERS Index Path toward NGBS Green certification. Builders looking to gain even more value from their IECC ERI HERS rating can leverage it to take advantage of a simple and affordable process to earn NGBS Green Certification and capitalize on all of the marketing, valuation, and quality control benefits that accompany a third-party green certification. Come learn about the HERS Index Target Path in the 2015 NGBS and how NGBS Green certification can boost the services and value you provide to your builder clients; single family and multifamily alike.

Learning objectives:

  1. Understand how the HERS Target Index Path works to meet the NGBS energy efficiency requirements
  2. Learn how a home or multifamily can earn NGBS Green certification
  3. Find out the role the Verifier plays in inspecting homes to determine compliance with the NGBS
  4. Learn what green practices are necessary to earn certification and how much certification will cost

Making Friends and Influencing Physics – Heat Recovery Ventilators (HRVs) and Central Air Handler Integration
Bruce Manclark & Dan Wildenhaus

Why should Builders care about integrated HRVs? HRVs are a smart way to ventilate that you can sell at a higher profit margin and avoid call backs with negative comfort issues. In contrast to simple exhaust fans or holes in the home, HRV allow for heat recovery, health through fresh, filtered air. Codes dictate ventilation, yet HRVs allow for both meeting code and adding value to the customer through IAQ controlled with the least economic impact or comfort impact. What are the benefits of integrated vs. two stand-alone systems? With integrated systems builders are required to install fewer ducts, requires less room and few holes cut into the buildings. An HRV adds the V back into the HVAC system.

Why should Raters care about integrated HRVs? More energy savings in the model (SRE and fan wattage), adding value as a consultant to the builder and designers, future proofing givenRESNET is going the direction of grading HVAC systems.

Why should HVAC designers care about integrated HRVs? Fewer design challenges, better chance at success (the thing works), and a clear process to install/better guidance.

Learning objectives: After participating in this session, attendees will be able to…

  1. Articulate the pros and cons of the three primary types of ventilation and the sub type of centrally integrated HRVs
  2. Discuss the performance challenges with connecting an HRV to the return side of the central system
  3. Relate examples of selling the benefits of good IAQ to homeowners
  4. Prioritize the design, installation needs, control strategies, and final commissioning of HRVs, particularly into central air handlers

Building Relationships with Code Officials
Shaunna Mozingo

Ever feel like you’d better not challenge that inspector or make them mad because you have to work with them on the rest of your project? Or that if you second guess or question the plan reviewer they might hold up your permit? We all have relationships with our code officials, some of those relationships just aren’t working. How can we create a working relationship where we learn from each other instead of fight each other? How can we be heard by the code official without coming across as challenging or argumentative? Let’s look at how to create relationships that work, thereby creating houses that work!

Learning Objectives:

  1. To better understand the make-up of the building departments and their core tasks.
  2. To learn ways to communicate with inspectors without jeopardizing the job you’re on.
  3. To understand how the permitting process can be a learning process for everyone involved.
  4. To learn how to create dynamic relationships with code officials that will serve you both for years to come.

And in this corner… Putting the gloves back on to build team cohesion from the beginning to the end
Tyler Stein & Brad Smith

Relationships between Builders, Code Officials and trades can be classified as fragmented and
sometimes even strained. This presentation will focus on the inner workings of builders,
jurisdictions, trades and third party inspectors and how a cooperative work effort can achieve
desired results for all. We’ll delve into the priorities and needs of both builder and code official
and provide insight as to how to raise the bar for all involved and how to foster a cohesive
working relationship.

Topics of discussion will include what’s been learned working intimately within a building
department, understanding your value or place in the building process, asserting yourself into
the design and build process, identifying the whole building team early and including all into
design and review of construction documents, understanding how to effectively communicate
and persuade, being self-empowered and have the desire to make change. We’ll also address
accountability and personalize it with a “if you see a problem, you own the problem” approach.
Lastly we’ll address the importance of marketing and sales of the building science built into

Both of the presenters have spent time working construction, owning their own companies,
working as HERS raters, have a great deal of experience testing residential mechanical systems
and now work for a large national builder and a progressive jurisdiction respectively. Much of
the presentation will be peppered with personal stories and experiences during our time spent
working in all situations addressed as part of the session.

New construction & healthy homes: Observations & Measurements & for Raters
Bill Spohn

Formal studies and anecdotal experiences have homeowners thinking more and more about achieving a healthy indoor environment. Many factors play into this including siting; choice, installation and maintenance of materials, systems and furnishings; as well as the activities of the occupants. Come to this session to learn about some of the observations & measurements a Rater can make to help homeowners achieve a healthy home.

Learning outcomes:

  1. The health impacts of poor indoor air quality
  2. Which materials, systems and furnishings and practices contribute to poor indoor air quality
  3. What are some key measurements and observations for Raters to make including action thresholds

Industry Update from RESNET®
Scott Doyle

With the inclusion of the HERS Index in the 2015 IECC (known as the ERI path) RESNET and the HERS Index was placed into the spotlight. But this adoption was contentious and detractors put the organization on notice. Essentially, the RESNET and the HERS Industry would face outside scrutiny unlike ever before. Additionally, savvy builders began to observe large inconsistencies among raters across various markets. This context helps us understand the environment that led to a number of initiatives all designed to increase consistency among raters and strengthen the credibility of the HERS Index. With all the changes, it can be difficult to keep it all straight. There is a lot of confusion and even misinformation being spread. But the truth, as they say, is out there. Scott Doyle, RESNET Quality Assurance Manager, will review 2017 Standard changes that effect raters and providers and preview key changes that go into effect for 2018. Policy decisions -including an important update on the SIM Practical exam- will be covered. Then we turn our attention to some key initiatives that RESNET is working on that should energize attendees for an exciting future ahead!

Review Key changes effective February 2017 (5 min)
Learning Outcomes:
– Understand the Terminology Change for Instructors
– Describe rule change that training is now required for Candidates

Preview Key Changes Effective 2018 (8 min)
Learning Outcomes:
– Understand Practice Ratings/Probationary Rating changes for new candidates
– Describe responsibilities and minimum requirements of Candidate Field Assessor
– List new Professional Development requirements for Instructors
– List new Professional Development requirements for Raters
– Describe Policy Update on SIM Practical

Status Update on Current Chapter 2 Amendment (2 min)
Learning Outcomes:
– Clarify Language for new Probationary Rating Requirements

Status Update on Chapter 9 Amendment (7 min)
Learning Outcomes:
– Describe status of Public Comments and Draft Responses
– Describe QA Pilot Status Update
– Describe Quality Agent Training Working Group Update

Key Updates to Technical Standards (8 min)
Learning Outcomes:
– Understand process for updating duct LTO exemption
– List recent and upcoming changes to technical requirements
– Software Consistency Task Force Update

Top 4 Most Exciting RESNET Initiatives (15 min)
Learning Outcomes:
– Understand WER Index and how it might affect raters and builders
– List benefits of Multifamily Standard for Rating Businesses
– Describe HVAC Quality Install
– Who is behind this initiative?
– What will I need to know?
– Understand how Appraisal Institute MOU with RESNET could finally provide solution to one of the housing industry’s oldest problems.

Q&A (15 min)

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Event Logistics


    Friday, September 15th

12:00 – 2:00 Check-in
2:00 – 3:30 Welcome & Session by Bill Rectanus
4:00 – 5:00 Session by Shaunna Mozingo
5:30 – 7:00 RaterOlympics! and a Cookout

    Saturday, September 16th

8:00 – 9:00 Breakfast
9:30 – 10:30 Session by Brad Smith & Tyler Stein
11:00 – 12:00 Session by Steve Armstrong & Michelle Foster
12:00 – 1:00 Lunch
1:00 – 2:00 Session by Marty Borquez & Jim Holt
2:00- 2:30 Break-out Sessions
3:00 – 4:00 Session by Bill Spohn
4:30 – 5:30 Session by Bruce Manclark & Dan Wildenhaus
6:00 – 7:00 Dinner
7:00 – 9:00 Ping-Pong Tournament

    Sunday, September 17th

8:00 – 9:00 Breakfast
9:30 – 10:30 Session by Scott Doyle
10:30 – 12:00 High Ropes Course Open
12:00 – 1:00 Conference Concludes with Lunch


The best airport to fly into is the Denver International Airport.  Below are suggested options for transportation between the airport and Covenant Heights:

  • Estes Park Shuttle. ($85 round trip) They have a shuttle that will leave DIA at 1:00 PM on the 18th, which should get you to our location in time. It will drop you off at Covenant Heights. When booking, select “Estes Park: Camps” in the “Drop-Off Location” field. After that, another drop down should appear, choose “Estes Park: Covenant Heights Conference Center – Main Office”
  • Car Pool.  Contact Sanaya if you are interested in carpooling from DIA.  A few weeks prior to the conference, a list will be sent out to everyone who signed-up with with the contact information of other attendees interested in carpooling.



What RaterFest! Previous Attendees Have to Say…

“RaterFest 2016 was a BLAST! It was great to meet other HERS raters from across the country and to collaborate with each other on better ideas and practices to become better RATERS!” Grant Warner, RF! 2016

“Every year I look forward to breathing in the mountain air and being surrounded by so many passionate, knowledgeable and experienced Raters and building science geeks. It’s the mid-year power up I need and I always leave feeling energized and well equipped to take on the challenges we face day-to-day in this industry.” Cristen Burrell, RF! 2016

“RaterFest! is not a conference. It is a gathering. It encourages good vibes & camaraderie, and I’m refreshed and a better person for having gone. Plenty of breaks, no stuffy conference rooms, and a venue that encourages sharing. Energylogic knows what’s important.” Blake Reid, RF! 2016

“RaterFest 2016 was a great event with great people, excellent conversation, and an amiable environment conducive to both learning and fun. I am impressed, as always, with the level of engagement from everyone in attendance and I look forward to participating again next year.” Ari Rapport, RF! 2016

“RaterFest 2014 was a great event in a beautiful setting with interesting attendees and presentations. It is probably the most enjoyable way to get CEUs I could imagine. Thanks to EnergyLogic for coordinating this event!” Jeremy Draper, RF! 2014

“What a fantastic event! Great facility with an awesome group in attendance. Excellent content as always. Thoroughly enjoyed the fire-side chats on topics ranging from Building Science to Code to kids. The food and accommodations were outstanding and the beer… ah, the beer was truly the nectar of the gods. Being largely disconnected from the outside world made it so much easier to connect with each other at RaterFest! 2014!!” Stephen Davis, RF! 2014

“First time to Rater Fest. Solid training and great networking. Thanks for making it happen!” Shawn LeMons, RF! 2014

“I had a wonderful time for the third year in a row! Rater Fest is a great way to meet associates, update our knowledge and band together to energy efficiency in buildings.” Nancy Kellogg, RF! 2014

“The element of Raterfest that made it stand out from other conferences was the specific focus on the role of the rater. Networking with such a diverse group of people doing that same work that I do was invaluable for me. And the site was fantastic!” Heidi McCullough, RF! 2014

“I am a huge fan of RaterFest. The organizers acheive a perfect balance of learning, engaging conversation, and nature … a sort of “unconference” that you walk away from feeling like you were part of something special! When was the last time you could say that about a conference? I know why it’s called RaterFest now … Looking forward to the next one!” Colby Swanson, RF! 2014

“What a great time! It’s rare that you can pack so much education and fun into the same event. As a code official, it was great to hear what is happening on the rater side of things and what is coming down the pike as far as innovations, policies, procedures and technology. I look forward to enhancing the rater/code official relationship and already looking forward to next year’s event!!” Shaunna Mozingo, RF! 2014

“Excellent gathering of building energy professionals.” Jack Beal, RF! 2014

“Great conference for catching up with folks in a relaxed and intimate setting while also knocking out those CEUs!” Laura Capps, RF! 2013

“I appreciated the balance between lecture and networking – with such a small group, the structure was particularly powerful.” Thiel Butner, RF! 2013

“Just like mother nature, RaterFest! is a force to reckoned with!” Andrea Ingalsbe, RaterFest! 2013 attendee

“Thank you so much for having Rater Fest, I totally enjoyed attending this event. I learned alot but meeting fellow raters was the best!” Nancy Kellog, RF! 2013
“This was an extremely informative session, and I truly enjoyed the hospitality. We will begin implementing some of the tactics presented, to improve our performance in the field. ‘What a Fest-Raters!’” Stephen Kassa, RF! 2013

“Tired of your old, dry, stuffy home performance conference? Trade it in for a fresh, lively, intimate, hands-on mountain high conference with down-to-earth building experts. Come to Raterfest!” Graham Davis, RF! 2013

“RaterFest! is truly unique within the mix of home performance conferences–national in scope yet small and intimate, high level, attracting a very unique group of professionals from the industry, and NOT in a Holiday Inn ballroom! My favorite event of the year.”

“Honestly, I was anticipating a bunch of nerds discussing building science. Turns out RaterFest! brought together the funnest, most dynamic group of people I have been with in a long time. There was no shortage of building science talk, but it was blended with the perfect amount of laughter, and beer, to make me want to come back again and again. Thanks for a great weekend!”